Looper Issues
I am trying to figure out a workaround to get LED Feedback for Ableton Lives Looper Main Transport Button.
I have a script attached which almost works but it runs into issues when I map it.
The only way to map the transport button is through Ableton’s Midi Map function. I have it mapped to a button on my controller called ‘Rec Arm’. In Ableton is shows as Channel 3 Note G1 (See screenshot).
I have a reaction set up, when Device Parameter 1 “state) is 0 the velocity value sent to the LED Input is 0. When it is 1 the value is 1 when it is 2 it is 2 and 3 is 3.
This functions perfectly well until I physically map the Button in Ableton. At this point I gain control of the transport button but the LED feedback stops working.
You use a Reaction to set the device parameter 1 on the looper to the various states 0 – 3 rather than mapping it with Live’s MIDI map function.
In the action section of a Reaction:
Live Object Model > Device Parameter > set value
and then set the value of your choice between 0 – 3
Hi John,
Thanks for your response. This was in fact the first thing I tried but it has a lot of teething problems that I can’t figure out.
First and most importantly is this function does not work with any form of quantisation – for my purpose I need at least 1 beat quantisation.
The other issue I am having with it is that with CC or Note and Toggle or Momentary the reaction turns it on when I press the button and then another MIDI signal is sent when the button is lifted (if that makes sense).
If I can solve the quantisation and the functionality issue the next issues I will run into is the fact I cannot clear/delete the loop using this function – There doesn’t seem to be any Device Parameter for the ‘Clear Loop’ Button. Having said that it does seem with the current set up I have if I set up the Looper in a certain way then this doesn’t matter so much. The quantisation is for sure the biggest issue.
https://remotify.io/device-parameters/device_params_live11.html
The only way I can think to solve the issue is to get CSS to communicate with the Direct Midi Mapping In Ableton but I don’t really know where to start. Does Ableton Output or Input a MIDI message with this Mapping? Can I create some sort of Ghost button within the Controller Template in order to use this within a reaction?
I have attached the script incase it is useful
Cheers,
R, this may or may not benefit you… I had Looper LED feedback working in an earlier version of my script, but it’s been a few years since I wrote that script, and since then I can’t get it to work for me anymore. Attached is the component that used to work (at least, I’m pretty sure this was the one). Maybe it will give you some new ideas. I’m with you that midi mapping just works better if you want the standard multi-button behavior. I have a button with no other mapping that I’m dedicating to Looper LED feedback, but no luck. I have the looper on a send track (12 tracks and 5 sends, with Loop on the 5th, so I”m using 16 for the track. Maybe the listener doesn’t do sends? Or I’m tying to point to the send track incorrectl? I”m not sure. But I hope we’re both able to get LED feedback up and running.
Legend Neil Thank you – I will have a look at this and see if I can improve my current set up.
For those of you who maybe looking at this in the future to solve the issue to suit my needs I have done a few things. The looper is being used VERY basically to record, Play and stop.
First was download this Max Device. It Records using ableton’s looper but automatically uses quantization which is EPIC.
I have a reaction that launches the max device record button when a MIDI Button is pressed. When i press the button again it switches to play mode (using the loopers perimeters not the Max devices). And when I press it again the looper stops. The next time I press the button the whole cycle starts again.
I have set the looper up so there is no need to ‘clear’ or delete the loop. When the looper is not playing you cannot hear it.
this is the max device https://deferlow.com/product-category/live-utilities/
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