LED feedback acts like momentary for a toggle

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In CSS, trying to do three things with one button press:

Mapping 1 (Device Parameter). “activate” a device slot (this slot is configured to bypass a vst plugin).  I want the LED feedback to only respond to this mapping.  Under “Controller Input”, I first selected “Default” under “LED Feedback” but the LED feedback is only momentary, the feedback does not stay toggled even though the activation of the device slot stays toggled.  I then selected “Custom” under “LED Feedback” and under “Send Feedback To”, reselected the button, still acts momentary.

Mapping 2 (Device Parameter). “activate” another device slot (this slot is configured to open/close a vst plugin).  I do not want the LED feedback to respond to this mapping so under “LED Feedback”, I selected “Custom” and left it blank next to “Send LED Feedback”.  The device slot activates like it should.

Mapping 3 (Highlight Navigation).  Highlight/select the track where the device is located.  This isn’t working, doesn’t change the track highlight to the prescribed track.  I did the same thing as Mapping 2 above as I don’t want LED Feedback for this so under “LED Feedback”, I selected “Custom” and left it blank next to “Send LED Feedback”.

So how do I get “toggled” LED feedback in the above scenario and how do I get Track highlight/selection working.  Is this making sense?  Happy to clarify, feel free to ask.  Thanks!

Ableton 11.3.25

Windows 11 Pro

AMD 7000 series Threadripper

256gb RAM

Edit:  Actually, realized I still had all the midi mappings that were there pre-CSS, so I basically started over. I deleted them all, and then started a new blank script and just wanted to see if I could get the first mapping working on one button. I’m not getting any feedback at all now and the parameter only responds on the second button press and then won’t toggle back. Any insight?  (tried to upload current script and controller files for this problem, won’t let me replace over the original ones I uploaded)

Glenn Verhaeghe Answered question July 29, 2024
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Using this mapping you can turn a Device on or off. I used a MIDI Fighter Twister to test the LED feedback in its default setting on a button and it seemed to work as intended.

There’s also a “Select Device” mapping to bring a Device into focus. It automatically selects the Track where the Device is situated.

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Have you tried setting Control Override to On/Off in the Device Parameter Mapping? You might need to adjust switch type if you’re using a Toggle in stead of a Momentary. If you don’t know which message type your button is sending you can turn on MIDI Learn at the bottom of CSS’s screen (located under the template and log, right side of the window).

If you press and release the button and the velocity stays permanently 127, then it’s a toggle.
A second press and release should make the velocity a permanent 0.

If the velocity is 127 on press and 0 on release, then it’s set to momentary.

herbert marcel Edited comment July 29, 2024

Hi. I guess you didn’t read the post edit. I started over from scratch to see if I could get the basics of one button working. I need to use the Device Parameter mapping for my purposes and it is only a toggle. I’m not getting any feedback at all now and the parameter only responds on the second button press and then won’t toggle back. Any insight?

Edit: Yes, I did try the Control Override to see if that would change anything but it is same behavior. No feedback, the parameter only responds on the second button press and will not toggle back.

Edit 2: Everything is set to “Toggle” and it is not acting like a Momentary button. It toggles on the second button press but does not toggle back. If I map the same button and device parameters in Ableton directly, it works as it should. The button is a Toggle button, CSS is set to Toggle. Wish I could upload more files, show you.

Edit 3: Oh man, hey that’s toggling now! And LED feedback is working now too, though I think I fixed that separately. Oh gosh, thank you so much, think is going to work, the other two parts work too like intended. So awesome, thank you!

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Yes, it’s kind of an issue that someone making a post can’t add any comments with formatting options. You can still edit your original post and add images that way.

I’ve tested your Parameter issue out myself and also ran into some problems setting it up. In the end I found the answer in this video (timestamp). If the parameter’s max value is 1.0, we need to set the maximum to 1. I tested it on the first parameter of a Sampler Device (which is the Reverse toggle switch).

I used a momentary button to test it with so in my case I set control override to On/OFF with switch type set to Momentary. In your case, I think Switch Type will have to be Toggle.

Let’s see if this works.

Glenn Verhaeghe Edited answer July 29, 2024